You Take The Good, You Take The Bad
...you take them both and there you have the facts of life...
(Haha, just so you know, my Inbox is blowing up as I type this.)
First, we're starting with awesome news: GENO IS OURS FOR 5 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!! Suck on that, Russian hockey team willing to pay him more money than God! Rumor has it that Geno's deal mirror's Sid's deal. :) :) :) :) :) This is a HUGE relief considering that over the past 24 hours, it almost seemed like ALL the players were looking for work elsewhere.
Haha, last year we were so worried that the Pens would be moving to Kansas City that we didn't see it coming this year when they moved to Tampa Bay! :P Let's review: scout Greg Malone, his son Ryan Malone, Gary Roberts, and Adam Hall made deals with the Lightning, Jarkko Ruutu is now an Ottawa Senator (borrows line from Michelle: Et tu, Ruutu???), while Ty Conklin and Marian Hossa signed contracts with the Detroit Red Wings.
Okay, so Marian Hossa is no longer a Penguin. That's bad enough, but the fact that he's now going to be sporting the logo of the team that handed us our first Stanley Cup Finals loss is just unreal. I realize that the NHL is a business, but this move cuts like a knife. What bothers me most about this is that he proclaimed his allegiance to the Pens and made statements to the press that he'd take less money to play for a good team, only to take a one year $7.4 million deal with the Wings. Well, now I have one more reason to hope that Detroit doesn't win the Stanley Cup next season.
Who knows what's going to happen in the next couple of days, but GM Ray Shero has got some serious work cut out for him. Losing Malone, Roberts, Hall, Ruutu, and Conklin might have stung a little less if Hossa had decided to sign on the dotted line. But now, well, this leaves Shero with some serious gaps to fill.
The most pressing issue now is that, without Malone and Hossa, Sid is in desperate need of a winger. Pascal Dupuis worked well on Sid and Hossa's line, but the majority of the production from that line came from Sid and Hossa. One name that has been tossed around in the past two days to fill that now vacant spot is Jaromir Jagr. There's no doubt he would be a skilled candidate able to capitalize on the Saint's mad play-making skills, BUT Double J comes with more baggage than Pittsburgh International. It goes without saying that a lot of Pens fans are still smarting from that "I feel like I'm dying alive" fiasco. Though, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the fans think about a player - if he is the best fit for the group, he should be brought into the organization.
With that said, this is also the guy that called our captain a whiner and a diver. Could Sid get past that and be able to develop chemistry and play well with someone who attacked him in the press? Could Jagr swallow his pride and relinquish his position as captain to be second banana to someone whom he clearly doesn't respect? It's definitely an intriguing idea, though I don't know how likely it is to happen.
On the plus side, IFHSA™ is not a Penguin! He has signed a 4 year, $15.5 million deal with the Dallas Stars. Haha, sorry, Stephanie S.!!! You have all of our condolences. ;) Well now the Pens should be able to offer Brooks Orpik and Marc-Andre Fleury a little more money to get them to stay. And the Pens picked up forward Eric Godard to a 3 year deal worth $2.25 million.
We're just going to have to take a deep breath and wait. Ultimately, I still believe the Pens will be okay. We've got Sid until 2013, and now Geno until 2014. We're super lucky to have not just one elite player willing to sacrifice for the sake of his team, but two. Shero should have no trouble building a great team around them. :)
(Haha, just so you know, my Inbox is blowing up as I type this.)
First, we're starting with awesome news: GENO IS OURS FOR 5 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!! Suck on that, Russian hockey team willing to pay him more money than God! Rumor has it that Geno's deal mirror's Sid's deal. :) :) :) :) :) This is a HUGE relief considering that over the past 24 hours, it almost seemed like ALL the players were looking for work elsewhere.
YYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha, last year we were so worried that the Pens would be moving to Kansas City that we didn't see it coming this year when they moved to Tampa Bay! :P Let's review: scout Greg Malone, his son Ryan Malone, Gary Roberts, and Adam Hall made deals with the Lightning, Jarkko Ruutu is now an Ottawa Senator (borrows line from Michelle: Et tu, Ruutu???), while Ty Conklin and Marian Hossa signed contracts with the Detroit Red Wings.
Robs is now playing for the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Bugsy's also now a Bolt - an overpaid Bolt, but a Bolt nonetheless.
Hall is one more flightless bird headed south for the winter.
Ruuuuuuuu, however, is northern bound.
Sid is shown at a practice with Conks, who's going to Detroit with Hossa.
Okay, so Marian Hossa is no longer a Penguin. That's bad enough, but the fact that he's now going to be sporting the logo of the team that handed us our first Stanley Cup Finals loss is just unreal. I realize that the NHL is a business, but this move cuts like a knife. What bothers me most about this is that he proclaimed his allegiance to the Pens and made statements to the press that he'd take less money to play for a good team, only to take a one year $7.4 million deal with the Wings. Well, now I have one more reason to hope that Detroit doesn't win the Stanley Cup next season.
Get used to seeing him in a red shirt. (>_<)
Who knows what's going to happen in the next couple of days, but GM Ray Shero has got some serious work cut out for him. Losing Malone, Roberts, Hall, Ruutu, and Conklin might have stung a little less if Hossa had decided to sign on the dotted line. But now, well, this leaves Shero with some serious gaps to fill.
The most pressing issue now is that, without Malone and Hossa, Sid is in desperate need of a winger. Pascal Dupuis worked well on Sid and Hossa's line, but the majority of the production from that line came from Sid and Hossa. One name that has been tossed around in the past two days to fill that now vacant spot is Jaromir Jagr. There's no doubt he would be a skilled candidate able to capitalize on the Saint's mad play-making skills, BUT Double J comes with more baggage than Pittsburgh International. It goes without saying that a lot of Pens fans are still smarting from that "I feel like I'm dying alive" fiasco. Though, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the fans think about a player - if he is the best fit for the group, he should be brought into the organization.
When Jags was a Pen, he was all business in the front, but all party in the back.
With that said, this is also the guy that called our captain a whiner and a diver. Could Sid get past that and be able to develop chemistry and play well with someone who attacked him in the press? Could Jagr swallow his pride and relinquish his position as captain to be second banana to someone whom he clearly doesn't respect? It's definitely an intriguing idea, though I don't know how likely it is to happen.
On the plus side, IFHSA™ is not a Penguin! He has signed a 4 year, $15.5 million deal with the Dallas Stars. Haha, sorry, Stephanie S.!!! You have all of our condolences. ;) Well now the Pens should be able to offer Brooks Orpik and Marc-Andre Fleury a little more money to get them to stay. And the Pens picked up forward Eric Godard to a 3 year deal worth $2.25 million.
DON'T GO, BROOKSIE!!!
Flower's arbitration hearing will be coming soon unless [*fingers crossed*] they can work out a deal.
We're just going to have to take a deep breath and wait. Ultimately, I still believe the Pens will be okay. We've got Sid until 2013, and now Geno until 2014. We're super lucky to have not just one elite player willing to sacrifice for the sake of his team, but two. Shero should have no trouble building a great team around them. :)
posted by snoopyjode at 2:08 PM
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HOSSA A RED WING!!! WHY DON'T THEY JUST KICK US WHILE WE ARE DOWN.
I know its a business and we have been through a hell of a lot worse but look at the heat we are going to take from Red Wings fans.
They were so jealous of us they had to take one of our best players. (I know I am fooling myself with that one.)
THIS SUCKS!!
At least we have Geno.....
I'm so relieved we signed Geno with an "e". But Hossa as a Red Wing? For ONE YEAR? That's a hard punch to the gut, right there. What a crazy gamble on his part, where will he be if they don't win the Cup, if he has an off season, or he gets injured?
D-U-M, DUMB.
OMG. OMG. OMG.
I am seriously going to have a heart attack.
These past 2 days have been the worse days ever.
Ruutu. Gone.
Hossa. Gone.
Bugsy. Gone.
Robs. Gone.
Hall. Gone.
I am absolutely stunned.
I want Shero to do something before I leave for the evening...
In all seriousness -- Shero hasn't really done one exciting thing lately (YES - GENO...!!! BUT WE HAD SOME TIME FOR THAT ONE...) I'm trying to trust him, I really am, but it's getting harder and harder by the minute...
eff today
eff these deals
Me and Crosby and Malkin and Gonchar are solid
The rest of 'em can bite me.
I'm gonna go bitch and moan for a while. But I'll be back with more comments.
Ruutu, I'm hurt. I thought you were my boy.
Also when I said the one line I didn't mean I hated everyone else who is already signed. I should have clarified I meant those who have BOLTED.
Get my double entendre?
I still love Talbot, Letang, et al. We're cool.
But damn, today hurt.
Michelle.
Damn you took the words right out of my mouth.
Shero is making me nervous. I mean.. we don't even have a team.
All my heroes turned on me. It's heart breaking and I need to let out my anger somehow.
God.. Give us something good here.
I think snoop said it best: "You take the good . . . you take the bad." As much as it SUCKS to see those players go, the GOOD news is that Sidney is a great leader and he will step up to the challenge of leading a new team.
GO PENS!
The penguins should sign mats sundin... Just a thought
Hee! Look at me getting a mention on Page One! (too bad the circumstances are so dismal) I appreciate everyone's sympathy. God, out of all the players in the NHL...
Anyway, Shero needs to close the door! Damn! Just when I had learned most of the roster (coming on board in December, you understand). Now I'm not going to recognize anyone!
That Hossa deal sucks....like I needed one more reason to hate the Wings. I tell you what, I will ask my Stars to please do their best to boot the Wings out of the playoff run as early as possible next year. Bwahahahahaha!
One last prayer:
Let's all pray to God that the worst is over.. and it all goes up from here.
by the time orpik decides, we'll have signed JJ, Naslund, and Potash.
Anyone here a Supernatural fan?
I feel like Hossa made a deal with the Crossroads demon for one year of loads of $$
although Sundin is one of the best and classiest player in the league, the Pens can't use him. hes a centre. You already have 3 great ones! Sid definately needs a winger though.
Hossa seems to be pulling a Cujo. I remember (since I live in Toronto) we had a great year one time where we made it to the second round and Cujo had a record breaking season for the Leafs, and everyone was all optimistic he would re-sign, but instead he signed with the Stanley Cup winners the Detroit Red Wings. It ended like this: Cujo sucked, ruined his career, Hasek had to come out of retirement. Now Cujo is signed with the Leafs again.
Brooks is staying! Just heard on TSN sport center.
5:05 p.m. Penguins have signed Orpik.......6yrs around 3.5 million per season.
WOOOOOO
AHHHH!!!!!! I'm sitting in a Panera Bread using their wireless, and when I read that I jumped up and yelled...whoops...everyone is looking at me funny...hehe...I tried explaining...no one got it...they just looked at me and smiled!! :) :) :) :) (Of course - their smiles, were a nice, you're "crazy" smile)....
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of the sudden I feel incredibly optimistic about the rest of the day - Shero can do something!!! :)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yay Orpik!!!!
Thank God for small favors!!
Brooks Orpik, I love you!!
@ali...I am with you. What has Shero done to dazzle me?
Maybe Orpik can help me get this Hossa knife out of my back
Orpik - 22.5 mil for 6 years - that's anaverage of 3.75 mil a year
ORPIK IS STAYING!!! YESSSSSSSS!!! I AM SO EXCITED TO HAVE THE MAN WHO HIT 5 GUYS IN 15 SECONDS!! WE FINALLY SIGNED SOMEONE, GOOD JOB RAY!
Wow, that sux that the Pens lost all those players. At least the Wings got Hosa and Conklin. GO WINGS!
But I still love the Pens, you guys still got Sid and GENO!
So what if it's a business. There's also such things as class. Not selling out to the hype.
Remember what Hossa leaving, Bugsy leaving, etc, feels like. Now remember we have Sid the Saint (And that's really shining through today), and a slew of other players who are sticking with the 412.
That's what happens with rentals. You gotta give them back or you get astronomical fees.
OH MY GODD. This is just what I did not want to happen. How? I mean okay, any other team would have been okay (not the best but OKAY) but the Red Wings?! Hmph, so here's the former pens list..
Adam Hall - GONE (TB)
Ty Conklin - GONE (Detroit)
Gary Raberts - GONE (TB)
Ryan Malone - GONE (Detroit)
Marian Hossa - GONE (To effing Detroit)
Excuse my ranting, but this sucks
On a more positive and cheery note: We signed Geno, thank goodness there's something to ease this news.
But in my opinion, I think having Jaromir Jagr may be a good move. Though, I know it will take adjusting to. And the chemistry thing would be interesting. But like you said Jodie, if he's fit for the position, then we should try it. (Never thought I'd say that in my lifetime about Jagr O.o)
Damn.. this day sucks...
OH and a little add in:
BROOKS IS OFFICIALLY STAYING.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11353
Check the tracker.
He signed a six year, 22.5 million dollar contract.
Alright, so that cheered me up a bit.
@pensfan
Correction
Ryan Malone - GONE (TB)
Oh shoot. Meant to put that... Thanks for the correction.
I can't get on the JJ bandwagon. I just can't.
It hurt too much the first time around.
no wonder the other page went silent...
yay brooks!
totally said the exact same thing about Sundin (BAHAHHA, we might actually be able to afford him now!)
also, I'd like to send a HUGE shout-out to Geno!
everyone is always going on about how team-oriented Sid is, but Geno's deal has proven that he's not the only one who would rather win than make an extra couple mil a year, and that makes me pretty damn happy today.
screw the sell-outs; let's sign the boys who are in this for the long haul! can Shero please sign MAF already???
Make no mistake, Tampa is spending like crazy to try and buy a Stanley Cup next year, or maybe the next. If that does not happen, trades will be made and heads will roll. I think just throwing big bucks out to everyone is not going to work for them. Melrose has not coached for too many years to win everything right away. That team will be very different in 3-4 years.
You know, we can make this really negative, and say we lost all of these players. But honestly, at the trading deadline, so long ago, did anyone truly think that Hossa would stay here? It was nice having him here, of course, but it's business, and the good news is we still have the top two players. We still have brooks, much needed, and Pascal Dupuis. Ruutu, I think we really needed, but we did add Eric Godard who I heard will bring a good physical presence.
Plus, did any one see that Sean Avery moved yet again to another team? I think that should lighten all of our moods. It's a proven fact that he will never belong to team that wants him to stick around.
As for Gary Roberts, it was either let him play else where for a year, or he'll retire. So at least he's getting one more year somewhere, I think we should all wish these no-longer pens, good luck playing on teams that wanted to over-pay them.
BOOYAH BROOKSIE!!!! :)
geno + brooks = this day isn't a total bust
AND...
we still have Sid, Geno, MAF (God knows Shero WILL NOT let him out of his sight), and Jordan Staal.
Back to the young core we started last season with...
I'm not happy about the Hossa situation but getting Geno locked up is great and Brooks Orpik is signed for 6 years. That's here was good news today. Detroit seems like the team to beat. Damnit!
terri, detroit's been the team to beat for nearly two decades... :)
now there's just that much more incentive to send them home empty-handed next year.
Jodie! Hahahaha your Jagr joke was hilarious. And that picture...is insane.
@ Michelle- Potash! Bahaha. Good one ;)
Orpik..a team player. One guy who didn't bolt. Good news.
Jagr= Waste. Of. Time.
The Pens organization should know this by now. We need to look elsewhere.
Geno: СПАСИБО! Мы любим тебя :)
Is anybody else thinking it might be a good idea to take another look at signing George!!!!!! Pen's could use a little grit!
Happy about Brooks! Bumbed about Ruutu and to answer someones question earlier...YES I did think there was a very good chance Hossa would stay and why not, the Pens made a good offer and it was long term that he said he was looking for. He was giving indications that he just might stay. I don't fault him for going or for where and why he's going, it's just a shame to loose him.
As for next season -
IT JUST GOT INTERESTING!
Hear now!
Penguins got to calm down their nerves, else, psychologically, all will fall apart.
There is a psychological aspect to Hossa and Conklin going to the Wings, so hold yourselves together. There is none devastating more than to lose a mind game. Calm down. The Penguins will be fine.
*sigh*
*sigh*
*sigh*
I have no words.
Penguins are interested in offering Jordan staal a contract extension. They will be talking to him this summer according to the pens website. Yay Staal!!!
According to the penguins website a contract for fleury will be confirmed in the next couple of days!
This is really random and will probably never happen. But I think that the penguins should trade Jeff Taffe for Colby Armstrong (if that is even posible!!)
i'd die of joy to get Army back.
and i'm so bloody psyched to see that Shero wants to keep Staal!
Wait is jeff taffe even a penguin anymore? If not forget about the comment above^^
I'm pretty sure Jeff Taffe is a UFA - In my opinion though, it wouldn't be a bad idea to look into the option of resigning him. I'm no GM, nor would I ever want to be, but seriously, Taffe got the job done, even if he was scratched for awhile there at the end...
Do it.
Looks like we'll hear some decisions from the other forwards the Pens are pursuing...
It's going to be another long evening...
i know someone already posted this but...
vote for sid or geno for an espy!!
that makes me really happy that both of them got nominated (;
-alex
yes, taffe is a UFA. (you can see the official complete list here.) i haven't heard even a whisper about any offers thrown his way... maybe we've got a shot with him. i, too, liked what i saw in him this season. i'd definitely be interested to see what he can do if given an opportunity.
christine, you're going to have to change your avatar!!! :( it's too painful (read: enraging) to look at now. haha, i'm just kidding. sort of... if you want/need a new one of sid, check out my picasa album by clicking the "TSCS photo albums" link in the menu.
This day sucked.
Besides Geno & Orpik =)
Which in my opinion overpowers the loss of Hoss and Ruutu.
Even though I will miss Ruutu more than anything..
Jeff taffe is still on the penguins roster list on the penguins website.
Words can't even describe how much today stung. I just think I'm going to vomit thinking about it so maybe I will just stop. It's one thing to lose Hossa, but the way he left just made me sick. Kept us strung along to the very end and then stabbed us in the back. I hope they fucking manage to somehow lose and I hope Hossa never gets a cup, because he doesn't deserve one. Sorry but that is how I feel. And I don't understand why we couldn't have kept Ruutu.
But we have Free Candy and most of all... GENO!!!!! <3
Well - some of you might have read this on the Trib, but I just wanted to share a good "vomit" comment from Hossa, "It wasn't an easy decision to make," Hossa said. "I want to have a best chance to win the Stanley Cup. I feel like Detroit is the team."
Another good one from the same article, "Hossa said he felt "the total package" in Detroit was better than the team he leaves behind."
"I feel strong about Detroit," Hossa said.
YUCK YUCK YUCK YUCK YUCK YUCK YUCK
Sorry, but I had to share it. If you want to read the entire article...it's on Trib.
Hossa did stab us in the back. No lie. But. I guess it is business. As my dad just explained to me. He wanted one year with a solid team. Not a 7 year deal. He wants the Cup now. But he won't get it. Detroit won't win again. No way.
Hossa really wasn't THAT good. I mean. He did get traded. He was just good cause look who was next to him.
@ Jodie
I changed. It was tough to do but I went with the guy that will never leave me.
Hossa...Tough decision my a@@. Total package, huh? Don't let the door hit you on the way out, jerk.
@anna
hossa unfortunately is THAT good. atlanta (who, after today, is looking like the true winner in the hossa saga) traded him because they knew he wasn't going to re-sign with them this summer. instead of losing him outright, they traded him to us and got 2 really solid players out of the deal. we, in turn, got shafted. it's bad enough he left us for the team that beat us for the cup, but now he's got to shoot off his fat mouth and make stupid comments to boot. of course detroit is going to be a contender for the cup this season - they have been every season since the dawn of time, haven't they?! so why do you have to say it? just shut up and leave - and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
NOW I'M HOPING FOR A PENS v WINGS STANLEY CUP FINALS REMATCH WHERE THE PENS TAKE 'EM DOWN IN FIVE. mmmm... that would be delicious.
@christine
i was just kidding - you didn't have to do that. but since you did, thanks for changing it. the new avatar is much better. ;)
You're right.. But I am trying my hardest to think on the bright side. HAHA. But.. I guess I am only fooling myself.
haha, anna - don't sweat it. after i wrote that, i thought, "hmmm, maybe it was just her anger talking."
and listen, don't get too upset. there are still a number of good UFAs left. the fat lady hasn't sung just yet...
Ha. I say everything out of anger in situations like this.
& I know. It was just like a slap in the face when these guys left..
Oh well. It's all good. Sid, Geno, Orpik, Gonchar, etc... will take us farrrr =)
@Jodie
I know you were kidding but it was the right thing to do. ;)
This is depressing but what is bugging me more than anything else is Hossa's comments. WTF? You don't have to go out with that attitude. The Wings are good but they aren't all that.
Pens and Wings in the finals next season would be awesome. Someone needs to put that team in their place and we are big enough to do it.
The Wings and their fans seem to think they are the shit and that they are some what invincible... I guess I can use that word.
That's how all the fans in Ohio are at least..
Karma will bite Hossa right in the ass.
Or at least I hope it does.
Douchebag.
Even before all of Hossa's comments were published, I knew why he took the one year contract. And it seems like the logical thing to do, from his perspective at least, except that it really isn't...
That said, Shero is doing the best possible thing in the aftermath - he's publicly stating that his young players (MAF and Staal especially) are his priority. Really, they should have been all along, but Hossa was too good NOT to try to snag. But I think MAF and Staal WANT to be Pens, and I think that they are willing to put in the time to become a team that can consistently rival the Wings. At least, that's what I'm telling myself...
And isn't it better to sign the REALLY talented players who WANT to be Penguins than to try to hold onto those who really couldn't care less who they win the cup with? We'll always need guys like Roberts and Hossa to round out the team, but having a really solid core with chemistry (a la Red Wings) is a hell of a lot better than what Tampa's doing or *shudder* Toronto does every bloody year trying to buy themselves a Cup with expensive free agents... (Newsflash Melrose: It NEVER works!) At least Shero is investing in a team that can continue to grow for a LONG time.
Now Shero, you just need to find Sid a winger. You have you work cut out for you. Go. Doooooo iiiiittttt.
@Lisa
Amen!! He is a douchebag.
Uh...He did sign with a good team...
Anna wrote: "The Wings and their fans seem to think they are the shit and that they are some what invincible..."
No, we just think the Red Wings organ-I-zation is the best in the league, if not all of pro sports, and the Hossa signing is just more proof that we are why we are justified in feeling that way. He left a boatload of money & security on the table to take a 1-year deal to join a team with essentially the same roster that just won the Stanley Cup. Meanwhile, the type of role players Detroit is able to keep (see Draper, Maltby, Chelios, etc.) seem to be the type that just jumped ship in Pittsburgh (see Malone, Hall, Roberts, etc.). You guys have some world-class talents, but the superstars alone won't get you back to the promised land. Anyway, the Wings dinged up the Cup in the celebrations and you wouldn't want damaged goods, so how 'bout we just hold onto it for a while, 'K?
Bring back Armstrong!!!! Hossa leaving..and the way he did brings back memories of the trade and questions about whether it was worth it or not
Dude I hope Detroit goes out first round next season
lol...
I just realized one nice thing about ESPN hating hockey...as I watched Sports Center this morning - not once did they rub in the fact that Hossa (I don't even really want to type his name) left for Detroit...
Kudos to ESPN (just this once...)
I'm going to be looking for some signings today!! :)
paul - sorry, you'll have to remind me: what exactly was the role Chelios played in the Stanley Cup final when he was sitting on the bench?
and if you want a dinged Cup, we'll show you a dinged cup... no one can ding a cup like a bunch of young canadians-->
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_AflfyNYxsQY/
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cup1.jpg
anon @ 3:13 - we should petition Shero to get Army back.
@ Mer.
Its out damn cup. We can ding it if we want to. Its history. And the cup is ours. Chelio's is the definition of hard work. Not to mention he has busted his ass probably more than you or I ever will be. Look at him, look at his age, and look at the shape he is in. He has paid his dues, he can ride the bench with a minor injury for ONE freaking playoff series.
As I told Jodie yesterday, I'm stunned by Hossa doing this, however, I don't mind it... every team needs more scoring ability :)
Damn I can't wait for the offseason to be done with.
"Not to mention he has busted his ass probably more than you or I ever will be."
Just as a respectful correction, having "busted his ass" is not a something that anyone can "be." And I guess if you win the Cup, you must be entitled to disrespect it? Honestly. I wouldn't have normally called you out on something silly, but I just don't know why Red Wings fans are coming over here to talk non-sensical trash with Pens fans who are hurting.
Like I said before, I wasn't incredibly attached to Hossa, but fans aren't going to forget this one quickly. I have to agree with Jodie on this one, if you're going to go, just go, and don't disrespect the team which gave you this opportunity on the way out.
I can't wait for the season to begin! All of this may be exactly what we need to get our team fired up.
@ kcjacoby - if you actually go to the albeit-mangled link I provided, you'll see a VERY broken Memorial Cup. It was a joke, as in if-you- are-gonna-ding-a-championship-
trophy-you-may-as-well-go-the-whole-
nine-yards-and-break-it-in-bloody-
half-like-Spokane...
As for Chelios, it was a rhetorical question. Obviously we ALL know how impressive it is for a 46 year old to play 14 games of the playoffs.
For the record, I make just as much fun of the teams I support as I do of those that beat me (when you've lost repeatedly to the LEAFS in the first round of the playoffs after trouncing them in the regular season, you learn to make fun of your home-team, no matter how much you love them)
[And, on a slightly more serious note, I've competed with minor (and fairly major) injuries in international competition so I actually *do* kind of know what it's like to bust my ass... not that I can guarantee I'll still be doing it at 46, but I plan/hope to be!:) It's made me all the more respectful of athletes who go out there and bust their asses because I know exactly how tough it can be]
sorry for this being so long winded...
P.S. Who else is excited for the season opener in Stockholm? I think that's so cool! And I'm even excited for the Rangers game against Metallurg.
@ann - hear hear sister! although i have 5xmore pent-up anger towards Hossa seeing as I'm from Ottawa where he was a repeat offender of the post-season-crap-out. now this. the only thing he's done right is getting himself traded to Atlanta for my favourite Sen.
i'm (FINALLY)ordering my Pens jersey today so that I have something to look forward to...
@mer...I will be putting a Sid t-shirt of some sort on my birthday list (I'm leaning toward the blue Winter Classic one). I'm hoping that will make me feel better about all this crap. (and I'll have it *just* in time to celebrate our boy's birthday as well...yay for early August birthdays!)
@Stephanie I highly recommend the blue one I have one and I love it plus it is more unique
I agree with clare stephanie - I have the light blue Malkin one and I get lots of compliments on it...
I'm thinking that I want a Staal tshirt...yep...
I'm waiting for some good, exciting, Pens news to happen today...how about the Pens sign a decent winger????
I do wish Hossa would have signed with the Pens but I can't seem to raise a whole lot of anger over it. So he thinks he has a better chance with the Wings. Best defence is a good offence. We just have to beat them next year and prove him wrong.
There are many different types of professional athletes and he views the hockey world in a very different way from Sid, Geno and Orp. But I look at it like this... he's not a terrible guy because of that. So far no drug charges and he doesn't seem to have held a gun to a girlfriends head, beat a wife or punched a fan in the face. These seem to be comman events with some pro athletes. So in my book he's not such a bad guy.
Just some thoughts...
I would like to see the Penguins to sign Todd Bertuzzi and he can be on the line with Crosby. He can be a good scorer and good checker. He is a bigger and strong player. I believe that he will bang Hossa real hard when the Penguins play against the Red Wings.
votee for sidney and geno for an espy!
votee for sidney and geno for an espy!
votee for sidney and geno for an espy!
votee for sidney and geno for an espy!
:)
TSN
I am SO excited and believe Fleury also took a discount because guys like Henrik Lundqvist are getting paid close to seven million. I can't wait to continue seeing Fleury in a Penguins uniform for at least seven more years.
RDS (its in french or else I would link it) is reporting that the Pens have signed Ruslan Fedetenko for one year for $2.5 million and Miroslav Satan for one year $3.5 million. For as thrilled as I was three minutes ago about Fleury I am not thrilled with these signings and feel the Pens overpaid both of these guys.
Satan and Fedetenko
That is the English version
I COULD HUG RAY SHERO RIGHT NOW!
We just got two of the best NY Islanders added to our team. And we got them at relatively good prices. I've watched them play and they definitely were the top of their team this past season.
Woo!
I too am thrilled about the Fleury news, but I think I'm still undecided about Fedetenko & Satan.
Hossa's knife in my back seems to impede my ability to process thoughts rationally.
so we got two guys i cant even pronounce their names.. that should be fun! haha Miroslav Satan and Rusland Fedotenko
They better bring their game =)
"but I just don't know why Red Wings fans are coming over here to talk non-sensical trash with Pens fans who are hurting."
Agreed.
Ruslan**
Fedetenko & Satan are a significant downgrades from Hossa and Malone. Yuck.
Wooohooo! Fleury's here for another seven years!! I don't know anything about the two Islander's they signed, but from the comments here, sounds like a good move. Now, lets get moving on Staal!
The Hossa deal is a mortal wound for the already bleeding pens,It's almost not fair that the Wings got him (Full disclosure: I am a Redwings fan)
But if a championship is what his goal was,Then he made an excellent choice and one year deal was a perfect fit for Detroit
At least you got Malkin locked up,That Guy is a magician...
He can make himself disappear for the playoffs LOL
OMG...the Pens signed THE DEVIL to the team??
Hee
Satan used to play for Sabres and my boyfriend at the time had his jersey. It just used to tickle me to see that name blazoned across his back.
I'm weird. I know...
I'll reserve judgment on Fedotenko and Satan until after the first couple of games. . .I'm a firm believer in the adage "the whole is more than the sum of its parts," or as my fave quote from 'Miracle' sez "I'm not looking for the best players - I'm looking for the RIGHT players."
[Besides, how can the Pens fail to strike fear into the hearts of their opponents now that Satan himself wears their sweater? ;)]
Fleury and Orpik are HUGE contracts to get done. sigma's right, Staal is another to get on the dotted line. These are definitely the right players, and there may be more in Wilkes-Barre in addition to UFAs.
This is why I *despise* fantasy leagues: the chemistry among players is what makes greatness.
KEEP HOPE ALIVE, PENS NATION!!
@anon
At least you got Malkin locked up,That Guy is a magician...
He can make himself disappear for the playoffs LOL
HAR HAR HAR
TOO FUNNY
Yeah cuz remember when the Red Wings had someone who was in the scoring title race last year? OH WAIT.
Seriously, talk all the smack you want. Just don't even BEGIN to say that Malkin "disappears" or whatever.
What a joke.
The Penguins will win the Stanley Cup in June 2009. They were defeated by the Red Wings and it was new experience for them. Now they will know what to do and can do better in the finals next year. You remember the young Oilers were defeated by the Islanders to win the Cup in 1983. Next year, the Oilers had defeated the Islanders to win the Cup in 1984. I believe that Shero is doing a right thing for the franchise. Trust him!
I'm so sad that Ruutu is no longer a Penguin :( I'm from Finland too, and it was so cool to have a great Finnish player in the team (I doubt that Pesonen is as good as Ruutu...)
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